Sanders Multiplier Magic
The critiques of is past times David together with Christina Romer.
Bottom line:
The analysis
One powerfulness receive got expected that a sympathetic analysis of the Sanders innovation would say, look, this is going to cost us a chip of growth, but the fairness together with (claimed) improve handling of disadvantaged people are worth it.
Friedman's having none of that. In his analysis, the Sanders innovation volition too unleash a outburst of growth, claims for which would brand a fervent supply-sider similar Art Laffer blush.
"The Sanders program... volition heighten the gross domestic production past times 37% together with per capita income past times 33% inwards 2026; the growth charge per unit of measurement of per capita gross domestic product volition increment from 1.7% a twelvemonth to 4.5% a year." And, apparently, heighten the growth charge per unit of measurement permanently.
More stunning silent are Friedman's claims nearly employment, shown at left hither
Multipliers
So, where does this spurt of growth come upward from? The respond is the magic of multipliers.
But it's non but run of the manufacturing flora financial stimulus multipliers. After all, Friedman too says that the Sanders computer programme would reduce the deficit, together with past times 2025 plough the Federal Budget to surplus!
How are multipliers together with then strong?
There seem to last 2 basic answers. First, Sanders assumes that at that topographic point is a large multiplier from income transfers.
If the authorities takes http from rich Peter, together with gives that http to poor Paul, overall income rises 55 cents! The 1 quote that makes this clearest is
He cites many touchstone sources for multipliers. He does non laissez passer on a theory. The touchstone story is that poor Paul consumes a lot to a greater extent than of his income, acre rich Peter was investing it all inwards corporation upper-case missive of the alphabet startups. Consumption is good, savings is bad, together with then gross domestic product rises.
From this key assumption, the relaxation of the magic follows. Friedman creatively goes far beyond conventional deficit multipliers, to conjure multipliers out of revenue enhancement increases, raises inwards the minimum wage, greater unionization, increased social computer programme spending, together with and then forth. For example
Snark
At this point, I halt inwards a chip of entertainment at all the criticism. After all, these are but touchstone Keynesian arguments. The private multipliers inwards Friedman's analysis are all conservative, together with shout touchstone middle-of-the-road sources. The economists right away together with then critical of this analysis, including the Romers, old democratic direction CEA chairs who wrote the open missive of the alphabet from past times CEA chairs, together with Paul Krugman, receive got been making large multiplier arguments for years to fighting for to a greater extent than spending. The "new Keynesian" academic literature includes multipliers far higher upward two, together with then 1 tin indicate to "science" if you lot wish. (Gauti Eggertsson, Christiano, Eichenbaum together with Rebelo ; a simple example amongst multipliers every bit large every bit you lot want.)
The Romers are right to emphasize that multipliers entirely travel where "demand" is slack, together with monetary policy doesn't steal the show. But the asterisks nearly fixed involvement rates together with output below "capacity" receive got been overlooked past times the mainstream many times before. It's a rare Keynesian economist who e'er thinks the economic scheme is operating at total capacity. And Friedman has the old monetary asterisk, together with he addresses the latter past times claiming a large render to the labor forcefulness together with increased productivity.
Even that persuasion is non together with then out of the mainstream. For example, Brad DeLong together with Larry Summers wrote an influential Brookings paper arguing for really large financial multipliers, amongst some of the same flavor. There is hysterisis; a multiplier volition select people dorsum to the labor marketplace seat (as Friedman claims), those people volition find skills, productivity volition increase; higher investment volition laissez passer on us improve upper-case missive of the alphabet together with too increment productivity. Demand creates its ain supply.
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Update: is past times David together with Christina Romer.
Bottom line:
The analysis
One powerfulness receive got expected that a sympathetic analysis of the Sanders innovation would say, look, this is going to cost us a chip of growth, but the fairness together with (claimed) improve handling of disadvantaged people are worth it.
Friedman's having none of that. In his analysis, the Sanders innovation volition too unleash a outburst of growth, claims for which would brand a fervent supply-sider similar Art Laffer blush.
"The Sanders program... volition heighten the gross domestic production past times 37% together with per capita income past times 33% inwards 2026; the growth charge per unit of measurement of per capita gross domestic product volition increment from 1.7% a twelvemonth to 4.5% a year." And, apparently, heighten the growth charge per unit of measurement permanently.
More stunning silent are Friedman's claims nearly employment, shown at left hither
Multipliers
So, where does this spurt of growth come upward from? The respond is the magic of multipliers.
But it's non but run of the manufacturing flora financial stimulus multipliers. After all, Friedman too says that the Sanders computer programme would reduce the deficit, together with past times 2025 plough the Federal Budget to surplus!
How are multipliers together with then strong?
There seem to last 2 basic answers. First, Sanders assumes that at that topographic point is a large multiplier from income transfers.
If the authorities takes http from rich Peter, together with gives that http to poor Paul, overall income rises 55 cents! The 1 quote that makes this clearest is
He cites many touchstone sources for multipliers. He does non laissez passer on a theory. The touchstone story is that poor Paul consumes a lot to a greater extent than of his income, acre rich Peter was investing it all inwards corporation upper-case missive of the alphabet startups. Consumption is good, savings is bad, together with then gross domestic product rises.
From this key assumption, the relaxation of the magic follows. Friedman creatively goes far beyond conventional deficit multipliers, to conjure multipliers out of revenue enhancement increases, raises inwards the minimum wage, greater unionization, increased social computer programme spending, together with and then forth. For example
Snark
At this point, I halt inwards a chip of entertainment at all the criticism. After all, these are but touchstone Keynesian arguments. The private multipliers inwards Friedman's analysis are all conservative, together with shout touchstone middle-of-the-road sources. The economists right away together with then critical of this analysis, including the Romers, old democratic direction CEA chairs who wrote the open missive of the alphabet from past times CEA chairs, together with Paul Krugman, receive got been making large multiplier arguments for years to fighting for to a greater extent than spending. The "new Keynesian" academic literature includes multipliers far higher upward two, together with then 1 tin indicate to "science" if you lot wish. (Joakim Book tries to reproduce the numbers together with comes upward means short.
Update 2: is past times David together with Christina Romer.
Bottom line:
The analysis
One powerfulness receive got expected that a sympathetic analysis of the Sanders innovation would say, look, this is going to cost us a chip of growth, but the fairness together with (claimed) improve handling of disadvantaged people are worth it.
Friedman's having none of that. In his analysis, the Sanders innovation volition too unleash a outburst of growth, claims for which would brand a fervent supply-sider similar Art Laffer blush.
"The Sanders program... volition heighten the gross domestic production past times 37% together with per capita income past times 33% inwards 2026; the growth charge per unit of measurement of per capita gross domestic product volition increment from 1.7% a twelvemonth to 4.5% a year." And, apparently, heighten the growth charge per unit of measurement permanently.
More stunning silent are Friedman's claims nearly employment, shown at left hither
Multipliers
So, where does this spurt of growth come upward from? The respond is the magic of multipliers.
But it's non but run of the manufacturing flora financial stimulus multipliers. After all, Friedman too says that the Sanders computer programme would reduce the deficit, together with past times 2025 plough the Federal Budget to surplus!
How are multipliers together with then strong?
There seem to last 2 basic answers. First, Sanders assumes that at that topographic point is a large multiplier from income transfers.
If the authorities takes http from rich Peter, together with gives that http to poor Paul, overall income rises 55 cents! The 1 quote that makes this clearest is
He cites many touchstone sources for multipliers. He does non laissez passer on a theory. The touchstone story is that poor Paul consumes a lot to a greater extent than of his income, acre rich Peter was investing it all inwards corporation upper-case missive of the alphabet startups. Consumption is good, savings is bad, together with then gross domestic product rises.
From this key assumption, the relaxation of the magic follows. Friedman creatively goes far beyond conventional deficit multipliers, to conjure multipliers out of revenue enhancement increases, raises inwards the minimum wage, greater unionization, increased social computer programme spending, together with and then forth. For example
Snark
At this point, I halt inwards a chip of entertainment at all the criticism. After all, these are but touchstone Keynesian arguments. The private multipliers inwards Friedman's analysis are all conservative, together with shout touchstone middle-of-the-road sources. The economists right away together with then critical of this analysis, including the Romers, old democratic direction CEA chairs who wrote the open missive of the alphabet from past times CEA chairs, together with Paul Krugman, receive got been making large multiplier arguments for years to fighting for to a greater extent than spending. The "new Keynesian" academic literature includes multipliers far higher upward two, together with then 1 tin indicate to "science" if you lot wish. (Justin Wolfers at the New York Times did some old-fashioned journalism: He called upward Friedman for a reaction. The article is great, together with clear. Yes, Friedman did the calculation every bit the Romers allege: An extra dollar of authorities spending today raises gross domestic product permanently; an extra dollar of permanent authorities spending raises gross domestic product growth permanently. That is at to the lowest degree non what the cited sources receive got inwards mind.
Bottom line:
- The key thought inwards Friedman's analysis is that taking http from Peter to laissez passer on to Paul raises overall income past times 55 cents. From this, you lot teach multipliers from raising taxes together with spending, from higher minimum wages, to a greater extent than unions, together with and then forth.
- I chuckle a petty chip that together with then many economists who previously liked multipliers right away don't similar their logical conclusions.
- The Romers accuse a serious, unproblematic arithmetics error inwards treating levels vs. growth rates. If they're right Friedman's whole analysis is but wrong on arithmetic.
The analysis
One powerfulness receive got expected that a sympathetic analysis of the Sanders innovation would say, look, this is going to cost us a chip of growth, but the fairness together with (claimed) improve handling of disadvantaged people are worth it.
Friedman's having none of that. In his analysis, the Sanders innovation volition too unleash a outburst of growth, claims for which would brand a fervent supply-sider similar Art Laffer blush.
"The Sanders program... volition heighten the gross domestic production past times 37% together with per capita income past times 33% inwards 2026; the growth charge per unit of measurement of per capita gross domestic product volition increment from 1.7% a twelvemonth to 4.5% a year." And, apparently, heighten the growth charge per unit of measurement permanently.
More stunning silent are Friedman's claims nearly employment, shown at left hither
together with here. 
Multipliers
So, where does this spurt of growth come upward from? The respond is the magic of multipliers.
How are multipliers together with then strong?
There seem to last 2 basic answers. First, Sanders assumes that at that topographic point is a large multiplier from income transfers.
If the authorities takes http from rich Peter, together with gives that http to poor Paul, overall income rises 55 cents! The 1 quote that makes this clearest is
The stimulus from regulator[y] changes is inwards Table 9. In general, the supposition is that reward receive got a multiplier of 0.9 compared amongst a multiplier of 0.35 for profits accruing to high-income persons. H5N1 wage increment coming out of profits, therefore, has a multiplier of 0.55.It's too visible hither explaining how a balanced budget silent has a multiplier
the average value of the (governent spending) multiplier from 2017-26 is 0.89, falling from 1.25 to 0.87 every bit the output gap closes
Other taxes are assumed to trim down effective need amongst a multiplier of 0.35
[The] relaxation of revenue together with spending programs volition increment job together with economical growth because the spending computer programme has a larger financial multiplier than do progressive revenue enhancement increases.So revenue enhancement http together with pass http raises gross domestic product past times 54 cents.
He cites many touchstone sources for multipliers. He does non laissez passer on a theory. The touchstone story is that poor Paul consumes a lot to a greater extent than of his income, acre rich Peter was investing it all inwards corporation upper-case missive of the alphabet startups. Consumption is good, savings is bad, together with then gross domestic product rises.
From this key assumption, the relaxation of the magic follows. Friedman creatively goes far beyond conventional deficit multipliers, to conjure multipliers out of revenue enhancement increases, raises inwards the minimum wage, greater unionization, increased social computer programme spending, together with and then forth. For example
I assume that the Paycheck Fairness Act volition heighten women’s reward past times 1% relative to men’s, together with at that topographic point volition last an increment of 0.2% a twelvemonth for the adjacent decade. I assume that 50% of the increased cost goes to higher prices together with 50% comes from profits, together with these are assumed to lower spending past times higher income people amongst a multiplier of 0.35.This, I think, is the key case. Admire it for its courage, together with creative role of Keynesian arguments. These are the sort of interventions that most economists acknowledge trim down growth, but some fighting for on other grounds. But inwards Keynesian economics, taking coin from depression marginal propensity to eat people, together with giving it to high marginal propensity to eat people raises GDP.
Snark
At this point, I halt inwards a chip of entertainment at all the criticism. After all, these are but touchstone Keynesian arguments. The private multipliers inwards Friedman's analysis are all conservative, together with shout touchstone middle-of-the-road sources. The economists right away together with then critical of this analysis, including the Romers, old democratic direction CEA chairs who wrote the open missive of the alphabet from past times CEA chairs, together with Paul Krugman, receive got been making large multiplier arguments for years to fighting for to a greater extent than spending. The "new Keynesian" academic literature includes multipliers far higher upward two, together with then 1 tin indicate to "science" if you lot wish. (Gauti Eggertsson, Christiano, Eichenbaum together with Rebelo ; a simple example amongst multipliers every bit large every bit you lot want.)
The Romers are right to emphasize that multipliers entirely travel where "demand" is slack, together with monetary policy doesn't steal the show. But the asterisks nearly fixed involvement rates together with output below "capacity" receive got been overlooked past times the mainstream many times before. It's a rare Keynesian economist who e'er thinks the economic scheme is operating at total capacity. And Friedman has the old monetary asterisk, together with he addresses the latter past times claiming a large render to the labor forcefulness together with increased productivity.
Friedman is apparently but taking the consumption-first, poor-people-spend-more-than-rich-people, undergraduate ISLM analysis, amongst a chip of Delong-Summers hysterisis, to its logical conclusion. I concur inwards a way: receive got those ideas to their logical decision together with you lot teach light-headed propositions (old assay on that). Robbing Peter to pay Paul raises income; wasted authorities spending is good; theft improves the economy, transfers fifty-fifty from thrifty poor to spendthrift rich improve the economy, hurricanes are adept for us, social programs, unions, minimum reward heighten GDP, together with and then forth. Well, if the logical conclusions are obviously silly, perchance 1 shouldn't receive got been making pocket-size versions of those arguments all along. Economic Homeopathy is non wisdom.
Arithmetic
But the Romers uncover a deeper puzzle. Even amongst these assumptions -- authorities spending multipliers around 0.8, together with a transfer multiplier of around 0.55 -- you lot silent don't teach the wild increment inwards growth that Friedman claims. So how does he do it? Their answer:
We receive got a conjecture nearly how Friedman may receive got incorrectly establish such large effects. Suppose 1 is considering a permanent increment inwards authorities spending of 1% of GDP, together with suppose 1 assumes that authorities spending raises output one-for-one. Then 1 powerfulness last tempted to intend that the computer programme would heighten output growth each twelvemonth past times a percent point, together with and then heighten the degree of output afterwards a decade past times nearly 10%. In fact, however, inwards this scenario at that topographic point is no additional stimulus afterwards the root year. As a result, each twelvemonth the spending would heighten the degree of output past times 1% relative to what it would receive got been otherwise, together with and then the touching on the degree of output afterwards a decade would last entirely 1%.
If this is right, it's absolutely damning. This is a enquiry of arithmetic, non economics. (And I would receive got to swallow some of my higher upward snark!)
H5N1 clearer (maybe) example: The authorities spends an extra $1 for 1 year. With a 1.0 multiplier gross domestic product goes upward $1 that year, period. If the authorities stops spending adjacent year, gross domestic product goes dorsum to where it was. That's the conventional Definition of multiplier, together with the 1 that all Fridman's cited sources receive got inwards mind. Per Romers, Friedman misread that calculation together with assumed the root $1 of spending raises gross domestic product past times $1 forever. In 10 years, you lot receive got a multiplier of 10!
The Romers are cautious, together with don't direct brand this charge. It's non my project to teach into the Hilary vs. Bernie whose-numbers-add-up fight. (At to the lowest degree someone hither genuinely seems to attention nearly numbers together with economical plans!) But whether the spreadsheets brand this arithmetics error or non is an answerable question. I promise to inspire someone amongst a spreadsheet together with a olfactory organ for such things to check. This is a bully fourth dimension for a replication exercise!
Update: is past times David together with Christina Romer.
Bottom line:
- The key thought inwards Friedman's analysis is that taking http from Peter to laissez passer on to Paul raises overall income past times 55 cents. From this, you lot teach multipliers from raising taxes together with spending, from higher minimum wages, to a greater extent than unions, together with and then forth.
- I chuckle a petty chip that together with then many economists who previously liked multipliers right away don't similar their logical conclusions.
- The Romers accuse a serious, unproblematic arithmetics error inwards treating levels vs. growth rates. If they're right Friedman's whole analysis is but wrong on arithmetic.
The analysis
One powerfulness receive got expected that a sympathetic analysis of the Sanders innovation would say, look, this is going to cost us a chip of growth, but the fairness together with (claimed) improve handling of disadvantaged people are worth it.
Friedman's having none of that. In his analysis, the Sanders innovation volition too unleash a outburst of growth, claims for which would brand a fervent supply-sider similar Art Laffer blush.
"The Sanders program... volition heighten the gross domestic production past times 37% together with per capita income past times 33% inwards 2026; the growth charge per unit of measurement of per capita gross domestic product volition increment from 1.7% a twelvemonth to 4.5% a year." And, apparently, heighten the growth charge per unit of measurement permanently.
More stunning silent are Friedman's claims nearly employment, shown at left hither
together with here.
Multipliers
So, where does this spurt of growth come upward from? The respond is the magic of multipliers.
How are multipliers together with then strong?
There seem to last 2 basic answers. First, Sanders assumes that at that topographic point is a large multiplier from income transfers.
If the authorities takes http from rich Peter, together with gives that http to poor Paul, overall income rises 55 cents! The 1 quote that makes this clearest is
The stimulus from regulator[y] changes is inwards Table 9. In general, the supposition is that reward receive got a multiplier of 0.9 compared amongst a multiplier of 0.35 for profits accruing to high-income persons. H5N1 wage increment coming out of profits, therefore, has a multiplier of 0.55.It's too visible hither explaining how a balanced budget silent has a multiplier
the average value of the (governent spending) multiplier from 2017-26 is 0.89, falling from 1.25 to 0.87 every bit the output gap closes
Other taxes are assumed to trim down effective need amongst a multiplier of 0.35
[The] relaxation of revenue together with spending programs volition increment job together with economical growth because the spending computer programme has a larger financial multiplier than do progressive revenue enhancement increases.So revenue enhancement http together with pass http raises gross domestic product past times 54 cents.
He cites many touchstone sources for multipliers. He does non laissez passer on a theory. The touchstone story is that poor Paul consumes a lot to a greater extent than of his income, acre rich Peter was investing it all inwards corporation upper-case missive of the alphabet startups. Consumption is good, savings is bad, together with then gross domestic product rises.
From this key assumption, the relaxation of the magic follows. Friedman creatively goes far beyond conventional deficit multipliers, to conjure multipliers out of revenue enhancement increases, raises inwards the minimum wage, greater unionization, increased social computer programme spending, together with and then forth. For example
I assume that the Paycheck Fairness Act volition heighten women’s reward past times 1% relative to men’s, together with at that topographic point volition last an increment of 0.2% a twelvemonth for the adjacent decade. I assume that 50% of the increased cost goes to higher prices together with 50% comes from profits, together with these are assumed to lower spending past times higher income people amongst a multiplier of 0.35.This, I think, is the key case. Admire it for its courage, together with creative role of Keynesian arguments. These are the sort of interventions that most economists acknowledge trim down growth, but some fighting for on other grounds. But inwards Keynesian economics, taking coin from depression marginal propensity to eat people, together with giving it to high marginal propensity to eat people raises GDP.
Snark
At this point, I halt inwards a chip of entertainment at all the criticism. After all, these are but touchstone Keynesian arguments. The private multipliers inwards Friedman's analysis are all conservative, together with shout touchstone middle-of-the-road sources. The economists right away together with then critical of this analysis, including the Romers, old democratic direction CEA chairs who wrote the open missive of the alphabet from past times CEA chairs, together with Paul Krugman, receive got been making large multiplier arguments for years to fighting for to a greater extent than spending. The "new Keynesian" academic literature includes multipliers far higher upward two, together with then 1 tin indicate to "science" if you lot wish. (Joakim Book tries to reproduce the numbers together with comes upward means short.
Update 2: is past times David together with Christina Romer.
Bottom line:
- The key thought inwards Friedman's analysis is that taking http from Peter to laissez passer on to Paul raises overall income past times 55 cents. From this, you lot teach multipliers from raising taxes together with spending, from higher minimum wages, to a greater extent than unions, together with and then forth.
- I chuckle a petty chip that together with then many economists who previously liked multipliers right away don't similar their logical conclusions.
- The Romers accuse a serious, unproblematic arithmetics error inwards treating levels vs. growth rates. If they're right Friedman's whole analysis is but wrong on arithmetic.
The analysis
One powerfulness receive got expected that a sympathetic analysis of the Sanders innovation would say, look, this is going to cost us a chip of growth, but the fairness together with (claimed) improve handling of disadvantaged people are worth it.
Friedman's having none of that. In his analysis, the Sanders innovation volition too unleash a outburst of growth, claims for which would brand a fervent supply-sider similar Art Laffer blush.
"The Sanders program... volition heighten the gross domestic production past times 37% together with per capita income past times 33% inwards 2026; the growth charge per unit of measurement of per capita gross domestic product volition increment from 1.7% a twelvemonth to 4.5% a year." And, apparently, heighten the growth charge per unit of measurement permanently.
More stunning silent are Friedman's claims nearly employment, shown at left hither
together with here.
Multipliers
So, where does this spurt of growth come upward from? The respond is the magic of multipliers.
How are multipliers together with then strong?
There seem to last 2 basic answers. First, Sanders assumes that at that topographic point is a large multiplier from income transfers.
If the authorities takes http from rich Peter, together with gives that http to poor Paul, overall income rises 55 cents! The 1 quote that makes this clearest is
The stimulus from regulator[y] changes is inwards Table 9. In general, the supposition is that reward receive got a multiplier of 0.9 compared amongst a multiplier of 0.35 for profits accruing to high-income persons. H5N1 wage increment coming out of profits, therefore, has a multiplier of 0.55.It's too visible hither explaining how a balanced budget silent has a multiplier
the average value of the (governent spending) multiplier from 2017-26 is 0.89, falling from 1.25 to 0.87 every bit the output gap closes
Other taxes are assumed to trim down effective need amongst a multiplier of 0.35
[The] relaxation of revenue together with spending programs volition increment job together with economical growth because the spending computer programme has a larger financial multiplier than do progressive revenue enhancement increases.So revenue enhancement http together with pass http raises gross domestic product past times 54 cents.
He cites many touchstone sources for multipliers. He does non laissez passer on a theory. The touchstone story is that poor Paul consumes a lot to a greater extent than of his income, acre rich Peter was investing it all inwards corporation upper-case missive of the alphabet startups. Consumption is good, savings is bad, together with then gross domestic product rises.
From this key assumption, the relaxation of the magic follows. Friedman creatively goes far beyond conventional deficit multipliers, to conjure multipliers out of revenue enhancement increases, raises inwards the minimum wage, greater unionization, increased social computer programme spending, together with and then forth. For example
I assume that the Paycheck Fairness Act volition heighten women’s reward past times 1% relative to men’s, together with at that topographic point volition last an increment of 0.2% a twelvemonth for the adjacent decade. I assume that 50% of the increased cost goes to higher prices together with 50% comes from profits, together with these are assumed to lower spending past times higher income people amongst a multiplier of 0.35.This, I think, is the key case. Admire it for its courage, together with creative role of Keynesian arguments. These are the sort of interventions that most economists acknowledge trim down growth, but some fighting for on other grounds. But inwards Keynesian economics, taking coin from depression marginal propensity to eat people, together with giving it to high marginal propensity to eat people raises GDP.
Snark
At this point, I halt inwards a chip of entertainment at all the criticism. After all, these are but touchstone Keynesian arguments. The private multipliers inwards Friedman's analysis are all conservative, together with shout touchstone middle-of-the-road sources. The economists right away together with then critical of this analysis, including the Romers, old democratic direction CEA chairs who wrote the open missive of the alphabet from past times CEA chairs, together with Paul Krugman, receive got been making large multiplier arguments for years to fighting for to a greater extent than spending. The "new Keynesian" academic literature includes multipliers far higher upward two, together with then 1 tin indicate to "science" if you lot wish. (Justin Wolfers at the New York Times did some old-fashioned journalism: He called upward Friedman for a reaction. The article is great, together with clear. Yes, Friedman did the calculation every bit the Romers allege: An extra dollar of authorities spending today raises gross domestic product permanently; an extra dollar of permanent authorities spending raises gross domestic product growth permanently. That is at to the lowest degree non what the cited sources receive got inwards mind.
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